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文章标题: 哈哈!法国裁判果然翻供-回揣老安一腿 (759 reads)      时间: 2002-2-20 周三, 上午4:42

作者:Anonymous罕见奇谈 发贴, 来自 http://www.hjclub.org

ISU对法国裁判的 misconduct 指控是什么?是〖指控〗,不是〖结论〗。

所以不足以作为推翻裁决的根据。



1。在民主制度下,从〖指控(allegation)〗到〖结论(verdict)〗必须

依照“无罪推定”的原则经过取证,听证,反诘,辩护,裁决等等一系列步

骤。ISU显然没有经过这些程序,因此对改变结果不具程序正义。



2。回答老古的问题:裁判作弊是否符合程序正义?要回答这个问题,首先

必须搞清楚裁判是否真的作弊。现在显然没有搞清楚。所以不能作为根据。



3。即使证明法国裁判作弊,是不是应该改变比赛结果呢?答案仍然是否定

的。因为取消法国佬的那一票,则结果是 4:4,则引用预赛结果 6:2 仍然

是俄国人胜。



老安和众多老友过于仓促地接受了“裁判作弊”的结论,而没有认真去查看

“作弊”的细节。下面附录的合众社报道,法国裁判从内心认为俄国人胜,

但是〖事后〗受到各方面的压力和威胁,有人(someone else)要求她指控

法国冰协!



整个争论,我始终坚持的就是两个字:〖程序〗,没有认证程序,就没有

“作弊”结论,也就是说改判不合法。



还是那句话:公正是程序公正,不是结果公正。



我看完比赛时的第一感觉是加拿大胜,现在我连“银变金”是否“结果公正”

都有点怀疑了。



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Monday February 18 6:37 AM ET



Olympic Judge Denies Making Deal



By RAF CASERT, Associated Press Writer



SALT LAKE CITY (AP) - The figure skating scandal that has become one of

the biggest soap operas in Winter Olympics history isn't going away.



In a newspaper interview Monday, the French judge at the center of the

dispute denied that any deals were made and said she falsely implicated

skating officials from her own country out of fear.



The judge is Marie-Reine Le Gougne, who allegedly favored a Russian

couple in last week's pairs skate to ensure a gold medal for the French

in the current ice dancing competition.



The dispute was settled by giving the silver medalists, Canadians Jamie

Sale and David Pelletier, their own gold medals Sunday night. Figuring

out whether there were back-room deals to swap votes hasn't been as easy.



According to colleagues, Le Gougne wept the morning after the event as

she accused French figure skating federation president Didier Gailhaguet

of pressuring her to back the Russians.



But Gailhaguet denied the allegation. And in the newspaper interview, so

did Le Gougne, who had not spoken publicly since the Feb. 4 event.



``I judged in my soul and conscience,'' Le Gougne told the French sports

daily L'Equipe. ``I considered that the Russians were the best .... I never

made a deal with an official or a Russian judge.''



Immediately after the event, Le Gougne said, she was verbally attacked and

felt physically threatened because of the way she had voted. She said she

would name names ``when the time comes.''



``I felt threatened physically,'' she said, without specifying whether she

had been threatened. ``And that continued inside the shuttle and when I

reached the hotel.''



She admitted she told international skating officials that the French skating

federation had pressured her, but said the whole idea was suggested by someone

else.



Whatever happened will surely be discussed Monday during a meeting of the

International Skating Union's 11-member executive council. Le Gougne has asked

for a chance to explain herself, a move supported by Gailhaguet.



He said he wants her to tell the ISU about the ``extremely negative influence''

she was under during the days leading up to the pairs competition.



Gailhaguet at first refused to consider the issue a scandal. Lately, however,

he has insisted it is starting to affect French athletes.



``Stop systematically bothering the French figure skating federation,

systematically bothering the athletes,'' he said Sunday. ``Enough already.''



When skier Christel Pascal-Saioni was asked whether the scandal affected her

preparations for Wednesday's slalom, she said she was ``happy not be involved

in a sport with judges.''





作者:Anonymous罕见奇谈 发贴, 来自 http://www.hjclub.org
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